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Some problems of modernizing Emacs

Eduardo Ochs (he/him) - Pronunciation: Oks, IRC: edrx, http://anggtwu.net/, more info at http://anggtwu.net/contact.html., eduardoochs@gmail.com

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Format: 20-min talk ; Q&A: IRC https://chat.emacsconf.org/?join=emacsconf
Discuss on IRC: #emacsconf
Status: Waiting for video from speaker

Times in different time zones:
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~9:40 AM - 10:00 AM EST (US/Eastern)
which is the same as:
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:40 AM - 9:00 AM CST (US/Central)
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~7:40 AM - 8:00 AM MST (US/Mountain)
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~6:40 AM - 7:00 AM PST (US/Pacific)
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~2:40 PM - 3:00 PM UTC
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~3:40 PM - 4:00 PM CET (Europe/Paris)
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~4:40 PM - 5:00 PM EET (Europe/Athens)
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~8:10 PM - 8:30 PM IST (Asia/Kolkata)
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~10:40 PM - 11:00 PM +08 (Asia/Singapore)
Sunday, Dec 7 2025, ~11:40 PM - 12:00 AM JST (Asia/Tokyo)
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Description

This talk is going to be a reworked version of the incomplete video in http://anggtwu.net/2025-modern.html. I will start by presenting several notions of "simplicity" and "elegance", and show that when I started learning Elisp it was "simple" and "elegant" in a way that it no longer is; then I will show how to fix some tiny parts of the problem by 1) using functions based on `cl-prin1', 2) redefining some printing methods with "(cl-defmethod cl-print-object …)", and 3) using Common Lisp to understand some recent parts of Elisp that are not well-documented.

About the speaker:

Eduardo is the author of an Emacs package called eev that makes total sense to a handful of people and no sense at all to practically everyone else - except for one part of eev, called "eepitch". He intends to explain the reasons for that in his talk.

Questions or comments? Please e-mail eduardoochs@gmail.com

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