Gypsum: my clone of Emacs and ELisp written in Scheme
Ramin Honary (he/him)
- E-mail: ramin.honary@gmail.com
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Format: 25-min talk; Q&A: BigBlueButton conference room https://media.emacsconf.org/2024/current/bbb-gypsum.html
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Description
Slides
Introduction
Ramin Honary
Emacs enthusiast since 2017
Software developer (full stack)
I love Haskell, Scheme, functional programming
Started learning Scheme about 2 years ago
My project: an Emacs Clone
- Tentative name: "Gypsum"
- Its not a great name, open to suggestions.
Goal: to Clone Emacs Lisp
Many clones already:
- Edwin, Jed, jEdit, Jove, Lem, MG, Yi, Zile
These only clone the key bindings, not Elisp
Only XEmacs (a fork of GNU Emacs) provided an alternative Emacs Lisp
Most people don't use Emacs for the keybindings
Anecodtal, but yes really.
Use Emacs because of the power of Emacs Lisp
Emacs is as powerful as a system shell
A good language is what makes it powerful
Goal: use R7RS Standard Scheme
I want it to work on a many Scheme implementations
Guile is the reference implementation
(more about this later)
Goal: able to run any init.el
Should be able to use
init.el
without significant changesMany invest significant time in their configs
Suddenly not having your config is disruptive
Such an Emacs clone would be more useful
Why do this?
I personally like Scheme's minimalism.
Use Scheme as more than just an academic language.
Seems to be a lot of interest in a project like this.
Talk of "Guile Emacs" for about 30 years
A long history of Guile Emacs (1/3)
Early 90s: Initial discussion between RMS, Tom Lord, Aubrey Jaffer, begin work on replacing Emacs Lisp with Scheme.
1999--2009: Ken Raeburn's Guile-Based Emacs. (My project is similar.)
"This project that I (Ken Raeburn) have started is for converting GNU Emacs to use Guile as its programming language. Support for Emacs Lisp will continue to exist, of course, but it may be through translation and/or interpretation; the Lisp engine itself may no longer be the core of the program."
A long history of Guile Emacs (2/3)
2010: Andy Wingo and Ludovic Courtes take maintainership of Guile project.
2009--2011: Emacs Lisp interpreter implemented in Guile. Still ships with Guile.
2011: Guile 2.0 is released
2011--2015: Robin Templeton's GSoC project. (Is presenting later today!)
A long history of Guile Emacs (3/3)
2020: Vasilij Schneidermann published an overview called "The State of Emacs Lisp on Guile".
2020 to present: Guile Emacs is dead? Andrea Corallo, GCC Emacs, JIT-compiler for Emacs Lisp based on "libgccjit", brings into question any need for combining Guile with Emacs.
Demo
GUI is barely working
I have almost no experience with Gtk or GObject Introspection
Hard to debug, crashes at C-level produce no stack traces
Using GDB requires rebuilding all of Gtk, GIO, GLib, etc.
Emacs Lisp parser based on Guile Emacs Lisp
Foked the Guile Emacs Lisp implementation for easier development
Have already submitted a patch to the parser upstream
Emacs Lisp interpter is barely working
Implementing my own interpreter in portable Scheme
Monadic pattern matcher
Can parse but not interpret "subr.el
"
"
subr.el
" is the first ELisp file run by EmacsA good way to determine what to work on first
A call for help
Latest Emacs has 1,393 built-in functions
I could never implement that many functions alone
Probably not all are required to create a useful editor
My job is to make contributing easy
Document the build and test process
Document the system architecture
Prioritize which built-in functions are most essential
Find low-hanging fruit, use as means to teach others
The work for which I will take responsibility
Clone enough Elisp to be able to run ERT tests
Then use GNU Emacs's own regression tests to test patches
Make sure there is a usable GUI
(Someday?) be able to contribute a patch from within
Quick architectural overview
The editor is based in Scheme, not Emacs Lisp
Config, scripting, packages all done in Scheme
Use of Emacs Lisp for scripting not encouraged
Should still be able to run your
init.el
Ideally should be able to run ELPA packages
Difference with Robin Templeton's project
Guile-Emacs links Guile runtime into Emacs
Not a Scheme application
An IDE for Schemers
Emacs Lisp is an "environment"
"Environments" are a feature of Scheme
Scheme procedures can be called from Emacs Lisp
Scheme state can be mutated by Emacs Lisp
(See "
./gypsum/elisp-eval.scm
", "new-env
")
"Functional Lenses"
Because R7RS does not standardize MOP (not even in "large")
Inspired by Haskell
Composes getters and setters
Single source file, easy to port
Ported to 3 other Schemes
A lot of work went into keymaps data structure
Keybindings are an important part of Emacs
Had to do this well from very beginning
Keybindings work correctly in demo
A lot of work went into separating GUI from Editor logic
"Parameters" are a feature of Scheme
Platform-specific APIs are always parameterized
Windowing and widgets
Translate key events to bindings
Evaluating Scheme expressions
Text buffering and rendering
(See "
./gypsum/editor-impl.scm
")
Monadic pattern matching
Simpler, more portable
(Not as feature-rich)
Easier than porting SRFI-241 ("Match") to Guile
No relation to SRFI-247 ("Syntatic Monads")
You can still use pattern matching
Monad pattern matching
Example program
(define push-stack (put-with cons))
(define collatz
(many
push-stack
(either
(try (check (λ (n) (<= n 1)))
(success))
(try (check odd?)
(next (λ (n) (+ 1 (* 3 n)))))
(try (check even?)
(next (λ (n) (quotient n 2))))
(fail "not an integer")
)))
Conclusion
I am just getting the ball rolling
Helping others contribute is my top priority
ActivityPub ::
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E-mail :: ramin.honary@gmail.com
Homepage :: https://tilde.town/~ramin_hal9001
Codeberg :: https://codeberg.org/ramin_hal9001
This presentation :: https://emacsconf.org/2024/talks/gypsum/
Original presentation proposal
I would like to demonstrate an Emacs clone I have been writing in Guile Scheme for the past year, which I am tentatively calling "Gypsum". Unlike other editors which only clone the Emacs keybindings (Edwin, Jed, jEdit, Jove, Lem, MG, Yi, Zile), I hope my Emacs clone will also fully clone the Emacs Lisp programming language well enough that many of the packages in ELPA, Non-GNU ELPA, and perhaps even MELPA, can be used in "Gypsum" without any modification. I would also like to talk a little bit about the how I am implementing it (the software architecture), and invite others to contribute.
I think my project is of interest to many Emacs users because, firstly, I have personally spoken with a relatively large number of people who have expressed interest in making Emacs programmable in Scheme. Secondly, there is a good amount of prior art for Scheme implementations of Emacs. There are even builds of Emacs that link to Guile which provides a "scheme-eval" built-in function that translates between Elisp data types and Scheme data types. The Guile compiler itself ships with an Emacs Lisp compiler as well, although it does not provide enough of Emacs's built-in functions to be of much use.
So by using Guile, we can make use of a lot of the prior art, in fact I am currently using the tokenizer and reader used in Guile's built-in Elisp interpreter to implement "Gypsum's" Elisp interpreter. That said, I have gone out of my way to make my code fully R7RS compliant, so I hope I can port it to other Scheme implementations like MIT Scheme, Gambit, Stklos, and perhaps Chez Scheme with Gwen Weinholt's R7-to-R6RS translator. I consider the Guile version of Gypsum to be the reference implementation of what I hope will become a fully cross-platform programming language and text editor written in portable R7RS Scheme.
The reference implementation of "Gypsum" is a GUI application based on Gtk using a library called "Guile-GI". Guile-GI uses the GObject Introspection framework to automatically generate Scheme language bindings to libraries like Gtk and Glib which are written in the C programming language. There is not yet any terminal-emulator version of "Gypsum."
The next step of the project will be to implement enough of Elisp that we can run tests written in the Emacs Regression Testing (ERT) framework. We can then incorporate the original GNU Emacs regression test suite into Gypsum. Any new API added to Gypsum Elisp will most likely already have regression tests we can use to make sure it is working in a way that is compatible with GNU Emacs Lisp. I would like to make it as easy as possible for people to contribute to this project, and having a list of APIs to be implemented each with a set of regression tests the APIs are expected to pass, is a very good way to do that.
About the speaker:
My name is Ramin Honary, I have been a professional software engineer of 16 years, lately mostly doing full-stack software development. I have always been fascinated with programming languages, and especially functional languages like Lisp and Haskell. I have been using Emacs since 2017. But lately it is with Scheme that I have been spending most of my free time. I am only a Scheme programming enthusiast, I am not involved with Scheme professionally.
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Questions or comments? Please e-mail ramin.honary@gmail.com